
Looking for Evidence
Looking for Evidence is hosted by Khara Collins and Shelby Wagner. We're two Voxer besties who enjoy sharing how we use different tools like Astrology, Enneagram, or Human Design, to make sense of who we are and tackle the challenges we face in day-to-day life. There are plenty of places to learn about the different tools, and we want to be a space where you can hear how to actually use them in your everyday life. Listen in!
This pod is a real time conversation between Khara Collins & Shelby Wagner, who are sharing what's happening in their lives and how they use different tools like Enneagram, Somatics, Astrology, Human Design and more, to better understand the hard and celebratory moments in their lives.
There are so many places in the world that teach you about different systems and tools, but there aren't many spaces that talk about what it looks like to use this wisdom in everyday life. How do they help us make decisions? How can they remind us to slow down, pause and celebrate where we are now and feel curious about what hasn't happened yet?
Tune in to each episode to hear what's happening in their lives and how they're making sense of it all!
Looking for Evidence
Have You Made Space for a Breakthrough?
What story is asking to be reclaimed in your life right now? Is there a thread be it joy, grief, or creativity that’s weaving itself through your spiral of healing?
This episode is a masterclass in embodied integration. Shelby revisits her reconnection to dance how a prompt cracked open a story she hadn’t told before: that of a girl who learned to love herself through movement. What began as a wayfinding insight has unfolded into ritual, aliveness, community, and even spiritual reclamation. She speaks about dancing with her inner teenage self at an archetypal coronation and how dance has become her new form of breathwork.
Khara reflects on the depth of grief after the death of her dog, Bindi, and how that experience cracked open layers of unprocessed emotion from miscarriage, identity shifts, and motherhood transitions. We talk about how ritual and presence made space for healing.
Themes of slowing down, practicing presence, and releasing the addiction to “the chase” re-emerge. Khara shares a realization that her pattern of always seeking “what’s next” has softened, especially since becoming pregnant again. She describes a day where she flowed between rest, creation, and nourishment recording five hypnosis sessions (finally acting on a long-held desire), cooking, and cleaning all without force.
The conversation spirals into boundaries, self-witnessing, emotional rewiring, and the deeper truth that transformation often revisits us in familiar forms but with new wisdom. Shelby beautifully describes this as not circling back but rising up a spiral staircase, seeing the same “signs” with new eyes.
Key Topics:
- Dance as soul reclamation & embodiment
- Grief as a portal to joy
- Pregnancy & deconditioning from hustle
- Letting life flow without chasing
- Hypnosis, creativity & aligned ease
- Family boundaries & ancestral healing
- Witnessing your own evolution through voice notes, journaling, and presence
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Shelby's interactive journal:
The Identity Field Guide